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for spending cuts for every dollar in debt ceiling raised. that is not what you got this time. and you have put the focus on senate democrats, a political tactic, perhaps a very successful one. but is that really a tactical retreat? >> i don't think so at all, chuck. and i was curious to hear steny's comments about this being a gimmick. 86 democrats supported the bill that we had on the floor yesterday, the no budget, no pay, so clearly they didn't think it was a gimmick. this was a bipartisan effort. look, if you look at the goal, we've got to get our fiscal house in order, we've got to balance the budget, and in order to do that, the senate actually has to produce a budget, which they haven't done in nearly four years. the house has had budgets for each of the last two years that actually get to balance. so what we did, in this bill, is to say to the senate, look, you've got to do a budget. families do budgets, businesses do budgets, employers do budgets. the senate has not done a budget in nearly four years, so this is the challenge for th
for spending cuts for every dollar in debt ceiling raised. that is not what you got this time. and you have put the focus on senate democrats, a political tactic, perhaps a very successful one. but is that really a tactical retreat? >> i don't think so at all, chuck. and i was curious to hear steny's comments about this being a gimmick. 86 democrats supported the bill that we had on the floor yesterday, the no budget, no pay, so clearly they didn't think it was a gimmick. this was a...
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wall street probably couldn't care less what washington does with the debt ceiling and cuts and things like that as long as they know what washington will be doing over the next 12 months, 24 months, and this is pie in the sky, it will never happen, 36 months. >> how about that? so, jared, mitch mcconnell was on the floor of the senate on wednesday, and he said it's actually not new revenue that we need, that it's cutting government waste as we've been talking about. >> right. >> let's listen to a few highlights. >> -- on pig manure. if they demand a one or fun ratio between tax increases and pig manure cuts, then there's really no hope of ever putting our country back on the path to prosperity. >> now, start with you, jared. correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't pig mature what paul ryan is actually trying to cut entitlements unless that's their word for entitlements? >> you know, there is no line in the government budget for waste, fraud, and abuse, although these guys pretend there is. when they talk about things like that, they don't know what they're talking about. during the recover
wall street probably couldn't care less what washington does with the debt ceiling and cuts and things like that as long as they know what washington will be doing over the next 12 months, 24 months, and this is pie in the sky, it will never happen, 36 months. >> how about that? so, jared, mitch mcconnell was on the floor of the senate on wednesday, and he said it's actually not new revenue that we need, that it's cutting government waste as we've been talking about. >> right....
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the second problem of the second more and more important problem than just the monitor of the debt ceiling or the fiscal cliff to use the significant force in an economic policy that's five years ago is facing. in terms that you asked me face problems with the service and it's it's. probably you know the lunatic second now this possibility that perhaps not they're all right. still is on. and this is just a byproduct waltz in washington of economics of the kind of false if you emotional for the economy in the right. right token of the economy let's check out the u.s. markets they do remain minutes ago the dow continuing north around hoffer percent that five year high despite u.s. confidence coming out. really knocked by taxes in spots over in washington the games are on the dow thanks to corporate earnings from drug micah finds on energy shows up the lera reporting a twenty fold gain in profit that the two standout stocks to me the nasdaq down a fraction the footsie in london also had a good day of it which indicates that investors are expectant of more such a bike stimulus going forward as
the second problem of the second more and more important problem than just the monitor of the debt ceiling or the fiscal cliff to use the significant force in an economic policy that's five years ago is facing. in terms that you asked me face problems with the service and it's it's. probably you know the lunatic second now this possibility that perhaps not they're all right. still is on. and this is just a byproduct waltz in washington of economics of the kind of false if you emotional for the...
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ceiling or the fiscal cliff i think is a significant force in the role of economic policy that is five years ago if i face a. journalist that you asked me face problems with service and it's it's. probably no you know lunatic aside now this possibility that perhaps not their ally. still is on the take. and this is just a byproduct waltz in washington all the phenomena of the kind of policy you know the most important economy in the world. but without a minus check out the markets us will be able to see they are indeed mixed but the down watch lee continues north actually averaging a five year high and that's despite u.s. confidence coming out. not by taxes and spanks over in washington but gains on the dollar though really thanks to corporate earnings from the likes of drug make a fire which rose two point eight percent of the higher than expected full year profit and energy shares as well collines also having a good session reporting a twenty fold profit so that's why it is half a percent for the dow. started out now the footsie in london as you can see seven tenths of a cent london h
ceiling or the fiscal cliff i think is a significant force in the role of economic policy that is five years ago if i face a. journalist that you asked me face problems with service and it's it's. probably no you know lunatic aside now this possibility that perhaps not their ally. still is on the take. and this is just a byproduct waltz in washington all the phenomena of the kind of policy you know the most important economy in the world. but without a minus check out the markets us will be...
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ceiling so that's not going to restrain us any more they're going to cancel all the spending cuts i'm afraid they're going to use the weak fourth quarter g.d.p. as justification for cancelling the spending cuts and so the governor's going to keep on spending the fed is going to keep on printing to monetize the growing deficit and we're marching towards a real economic crisis the united states where the dollar is going to plunge and that's going to send prices and interest rates that america's soaring there i want to ask i want to point out this other justification that the white house is using the white house also blame superstorm sandy for shrinking the economy natural disaster as as we know also disastrous for the economy and also out of the government's hands right. well look the government's going to blame everybody but themselves why doesn't the obama administration take a look in the mirror if they want to know why the economy is struggling and believe me it's going to get a lot worse because we still have all this money that we borrowed that we have to deal with always did duri
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that was to pay for the last debt ceiling increase, let alone any future increases. we're not interested in shutting government down. what happens on march 1, spending goes down automatically. march 27th is when the moment you're talking about, the continuing resolution expires. we are more than happy to keep spending at those levels going on into the future while we debate how to balance the budget, how to grow the economy, how to create economic opportunity. >> all right. now let's put this in context and think about what congressman ryan from wisconsin is really saying. republicans backed off their debt limit threat because they knew it was a political loser. and now they seem to be backing off their threat to shut down the government. sequester? well, that's another matter. if congress does nothing, the cuts take effect. republicans don't want defense cuts, but they might be willing to stomach those cuts because domestic programs would also get slashed, including medicare. and that's what republicans really want. let's turn to barney frank, former massachusetts c
that was to pay for the last debt ceiling increase, let alone any future increases. we're not interested in shutting government down. what happens on march 1, spending goes down automatically. march 27th is when the moment you're talking about, the continuing resolution expires. we are more than happy to keep spending at those levels going on into the future while we debate how to balance the budget, how to grow the economy, how to create economic opportunity. >> all right. now let's put...
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i haven't heard anything from s&p or moodies who say we want the debt ceiling to go higher. everybody watching this show who has cut back 0, government has to learn how to do the same thing. it's cowardly in washington to continue to hide behind the notion that we're going to collapse overnight as a nation if we don't keep spending ourselves to death. >> i agree. congressmen have basically sent a message that today is not the day we're going to stop spending our children's and grandchildren's money, and charles is exactly right. the reason why our credit got downgraded is because of our out of control spending and out of control debt. the fiscal cliff deal even we just witnessed, it's such -- added four trillion dollars to our deficit over the next ten years. so, congress is not serious about reigning in spending and that's exactly when the we need to too. >> but they're not doing it. >> they're not doing it. and it neils hunky dorie. that's just it. >> the markets aren't. >> the markets are hunky doory for a few reasons. it's pause of the global economy. markets went up and
i haven't heard anything from s&p or moodies who say we want the debt ceiling to go higher. everybody watching this show who has cut back 0, government has to learn how to do the same thing. it's cowardly in washington to continue to hide behind the notion that we're going to collapse overnight as a nation if we don't keep spending ourselves to death. >> i agree. congressmen have basically sent a message that today is not the day we're going to stop spending our children's and...
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now that the debt ceiling is gone, that has become their plan a, the best shot at getting spending cuts. the problem is that their plan a has the most boring name of really any policy in washington, the sequester. but you need to know about it to follow what is going to happen in the next couple of months in d.c. i am not going to use the "s" word, i'm going to call it big, dumb, very, very liberal, friendly spending cuts. but before we rename it you need to hear our speaker, john boehner on the subject. >> the deadline, obviously, is the sequester, have you had any conversation with the president or harry reid about that so far? >> i have not. the sequester is going to go into effect on march first unless there are cuts and reforms to get us on a plan to balance the budget in the next ten years, it is as simple as that. >> mr. boehner told the board that the sequester is as much leverage as we're going to get, quote. he meant it to sound reassuring to conservatives, like that is fine, we don't need the debt ceiling, we have the big spending cuts, democrats will never allow those. i can
now that the debt ceiling is gone, that has become their plan a, the best shot at getting spending cuts. the problem is that their plan a has the most boring name of really any policy in washington, the sequester. but you need to know about it to follow what is going to happen in the next couple of months in d.c. i am not going to use the "s" word, i'm going to call it big, dumb, very, very liberal, friendly spending cuts. but before we rename it you need to hear our speaker, john...
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ceiling. the american economy somebody very important to the global economy. we cannot have the kind of nonsense we've had going on in the building behind me and think that that's going to be either good foreign policy or economic policy for around the globe, not just here at home. i think he was trying to remind people we do live in a global economy. it is interconnected and that that does impact our foreign policy and our defenses. >> it clearly does. michael, the outgoing secretary of state said, and i'm quoting her, we are facing a spreading hi hjihadist threat across nort africa. is it your view that the attack on the consulate in libya, the hostage taking at that gas plant in algeria, and the conflict in mali mean that north africa is now the main front for islamic terrorism and how does a new secretary of state confront this? >> great question. i don't know that i would say it's the main front, but it is certainly a serious front and a serious set of interlocked issues. one thing we hav
ceiling. the american economy somebody very important to the global economy. we cannot have the kind of nonsense we've had going on in the building behind me and think that that's going to be either good foreign policy or economic policy for around the globe, not just here at home. i think he was trying to remind people we do live in a global economy. it is interconnected and that that does impact our foreign policy and our defenses. >> it clearly does. michael, the outgoing secretary of...
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police budgets, to -- you know supposedly deal with this debt ceiling -- the last time i checked, 87 americans did not die from the fiscal cliff or the debt ceiling. they are dying from unrestricted access to guns and congress is to blame. >> jennifer: give us some hope. if you have to put your prognosticating hat on, which of the measures are going to get through this congress? will there be an assault weapons ban, background checks and a ban on high-capacity magazines. >> if general mccrystal continues to speak out that these are designed for war and maximum body damage, not for a civilized society, we might get that ban on assault weapons. we should get a universal background check for all gun sales so it's harder for criminals, the mentally ill and terrorist groups that come to u.s. gun shows because they can buy assault weapons without a background check in this country, we should be able to get that. the ban on high-capacity ammunition clips is just common sense. we should get consumer protection standards like we have for toy guns but not real guns and then lindsay graham is s
police budgets, to -- you know supposedly deal with this debt ceiling -- the last time i checked, 87 americans did not die from the fiscal cliff or the debt ceiling. they are dying from unrestricted access to guns and congress is to blame. >> jennifer: give us some hope. if you have to put your prognosticating hat on, which of the measures are going to get through this congress? will there be an assault weapons ban, background checks and a ban on high-capacity magazines. >> if...
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remember how they vowed they would only raise the debt ceiling by a dollar for every dollar cut in spending. now they said never mind. we'll push that down the road. the big fight will be on the sweeping spending cuts that go into effect march 1 and on the government funding that runs out on march 27. march is going to be the month to watch, and it's a month that could end in a government shutdown. >> ifill: is it the kind of fight the republicans want to have to redefine themselveses? >> i think they do. gwen, i think you have to know when to hold them and know when to fold them. yes, the republicans folded on this wise wisely. finally, i think they got some smart on this. you have to pick your fights. they need a breather now. they've been on the defense for a year on tax cuts for millionaires, on toughness, shutting down the government, they're not going to compromise. they need to recalbright here, a reset button needs to be pushed and it seems like in every aspect of government. and fight on future spending, not on obligations already incur. >> ifill: in the inaugural address this week
remember how they vowed they would only raise the debt ceiling by a dollar for every dollar cut in spending. now they said never mind. we'll push that down the road. the big fight will be on the sweeping spending cuts that go into effect march 1 and on the government funding that runs out on march 27. march is going to be the month to watch, and it's a month that could end in a government shutdown. >> ifill: is it the kind of fight the republicans want to have to redefine themselveses?...
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if not that fight, then in the next debt ceiling fight the next debt ceiling fight. the demand nor spending cuts isn't going to go anywhere. >> bill: barney frank, he would be fired up, ready to go. he knows she is issues. he knows the fiscal issues better than anybody else. >> deval patrick said he would be happy to have him. he didn't endorse it per se but he expressed sort of opens to the idea. >> wouldn't be a big learning curve for barney. >> bill: no, not at all. i think it would be very tough for governor patrick not to appoint him. i mean who else could step in and have all of the information and all of the experience you need to really fight for the people. >> i was going to say -- >> bill: now, of course, so is it is sort of a relief the fiscal issues are out of the way and we can talk about something else like maybe immigration reform. very unusual to see these days eight senators, four from each party, agree on anything, correct? >> it is. >> bill: you cover the congress. you're there. >> i do. filibuster reform deal that killed filibuster reform. this is
if not that fight, then in the next debt ceiling fight the next debt ceiling fight. the demand nor spending cuts isn't going to go anywhere. >> bill: barney frank, he would be fired up, ready to go. he knows she is issues. he knows the fiscal issues better than anybody else. >> deval patrick said he would be happy to have him. he didn't endorse it per se but he expressed sort of opens to the idea. >> wouldn't be a big learning curve for barney. >> bill: no, not at all. i...
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i have said many times, i would oppose the budget control act which will raise the debt ceiling. in part, because the way the question provisions were written. they were unbalanced. 50% of our cuts come from the defense. it just cut everything by the same amount as opposed to give our military leaders the pentagon to cut from unsuccessful and outdated programs and put more money into the most successful and important programs. with that said, the only thing worse than the defense cuts and sequestration is no cuts at all. if we don't have the sequestration cuts at the top line revenue level went we will increase the debt ceiling with almost nothing to show for it. part of the reasons why the house republicans this week, extended the debt cerealing for three months to feel out paul ryan and his team to draft a budget that gets us balanced in 10 years but also protects the department of defense from further cuts because they have already been cut by $500 billion. >> do you get the idea, do you get the sense that americans are tired of world business. that doing some business here at
i have said many times, i would oppose the budget control act which will raise the debt ceiling. in part, because the way the question provisions were written. they were unbalanced. 50% of our cuts come from the defense. it just cut everything by the same amount as opposed to give our military leaders the pentagon to cut from unsuccessful and outdated programs and put more money into the most successful and important programs. with that said, the only thing worse than the defense cuts and...
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ceiling ultimately unless they get severe spending cuts and the obama administration is not going to give it to them. and you are going to watch the u.s. do crazy, crazy things this year. >> if you are right on those crazy, crazy things, then the rest of us are in for a dreadful, dread full time? >> dreadful. it is going to be so strange for the richest country on earth to cross their arms and say i'm not paying. imagine crossing your arms. you are going to see it this year. >> reporter: now, we have been asking our guests here for the riskometer. on this side we have is the u.s. a bigger threat to global growth in 2013. on this side the e.u. lutnic thinks the u.s. is by far the bigger. as you look overall most people still seem to believe europe is the biggest threat in 2013. by the way, speet tweet me wher think the biggest threat is. >> very official looking. did you make that yourself? >> don't you mock it? it works and it is doing a good job. >> we will have people tweet you and see what they feel about all of this but a lot of power players weighing in on whether or not there i
ceiling ultimately unless they get severe spending cuts and the obama administration is not going to give it to them. and you are going to watch the u.s. do crazy, crazy things this year. >> if you are right on those crazy, crazy things, then the rest of us are in for a dreadful, dread full time? >> dreadful. it is going to be so strange for the richest country on earth to cross their arms and say i'm not paying. imagine crossing your arms. you are going to see it this year....
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going to raise it without equal pay cut, and basically he went back on that, and as you said, all he did was kick it down the road for three months. what was the point for him? >> the point was to look like they had some kind of a win because they knew they were in trouble on the debt ceiling, and then put the pressure on somebody else, namely the senate. but they are going to put forth a budget pretty soon that is really going to be an important % contrast for the american people to see. they are going to try to balance the budget in ten years, which you cannot do without slashing medicare and medicaid, and social security. so the american people will get, i think, a very good look at the way republicans want to balance the budget and do deficit reduction and the way democrats do. we actually went through this with paul ryan's budget which was so egregious the leader of his party had to back away from it in the campaign. >> stephanie: yeah, it was seen as sort of a slap at the senate but they are calling it the no budget, no pay idea. it has been regarded by a lot of people as a gim
going to raise it without equal pay cut, and basically he went back on that, and as you said, all he did was kick it down the road for three months. what was the point for him? >> the point was to look like they had some kind of a win because they knew they were in trouble on the debt ceiling, and then put the pressure on somebody else, namely the senate. but they are going to put forth a budget pretty soon that is really going to be an important % contrast for the american people to see....
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history, or if you can use the debt ceiling, which you can, in the end, pull the trigger on -- which you cannot, in the end, fully drawn. it would be catastrophic. it means to have to cut spending by 40% overnight, which you cannot do. unless you can execute the glove, don't good because obama will call it as he called it on generate first of this year, has he would with the debt ceiling. don't execute if you cannot carry out the block. i hope you weren't applauding carry out the blood appeared in which case, my entire argument is undermined and has gone nowhere. >> i think there is a small contingent. >> and they are on suicide watch. i hope their shoelaces have been removed. [laughter] so you do what i think the house members in their retreat in williamsburg very cleverly did. you pick your fights and you don't try to govern from one house. you get very small advances. i recommended last week, that in return for a temporary debt ceiling for three months, the the return to the senate and produce a budget. they adopted the idea and they have already succeeded. the senate will now pro
history, or if you can use the debt ceiling, which you can, in the end, pull the trigger on -- which you cannot, in the end, fully drawn. it would be catastrophic. it means to have to cut spending by 40% overnight, which you cannot do. unless you can execute the glove, don't good because obama will call it as he called it on generate first of this year, has he would with the debt ceiling. don't execute if you cannot carry out the block. i hope you weren't applauding carry out the blood appeared...
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ceiling and impose budgets that cut the government 40% in ten years, the idea behind those crisis mongers is that we have to slash the heck out of social insurance, out of programs that provide educational opportunities for poor people, out of things that push back against economic inequality. we can't afford it. we must cut them. the crisis dictates it. if there is no crisis and, as krugman and i argue, there is no crisis, if there is no crisis, they're just out there in nowhere land by themselves, by the way, without the majority of the electorate behind them. >> very briefly, jared, if you can, eric cantor says taxes are done, no taxes, so i guess another stalemate to come on that? >> i see -- it's hard to see how the budget that's going to come out of the senate, and i think patty murray is going to do a very good job on that, is going to reconcile with the kind of budgets we're looking at. >> jared bernstein who absolutely deserves the nobel peace prize, thank you, sir, thank you for joining us. and we'll be right back. ♪ alright, let's go. ♪ shimmy, shimmy chocolate. ♪ shimmy,
ceiling and impose budgets that cut the government 40% in ten years, the idea behind those crisis mongers is that we have to slash the heck out of social insurance, out of programs that provide educational opportunities for poor people, out of things that push back against economic inequality. we can't afford it. we must cut them. the crisis dictates it. if there is no crisis and, as krugman and i argue, there is no crisis, if there is no crisis, they're just out there in nowhere land by...
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after monday as we start to move toward debt ceiling conversation and spending cuts get placed on the table, the poor are likely to take it on the chin, and that is why we are having this conversation live on c-span. our web site is a futurewithoutpoverty.com. have we lowered our expectations? i wonder what we say to fellow citizens who have lowered expectations. there is always a debate about what the proper role of government ought to be, and i suspect we are going to get into more conversation over the coming days as to what the role of government should be, what are our expectations, are they too low, and some people will say they are too high. talk about expectations. what do we have a right to expect in the richest nation in the world? >> i think it is important about what should be done, it is not theory. it is actually being done in countries around the world with demonstrated, of proven results, so every child in many countries of europe start out with preschool, and the results are unlike this country there is not hereditary problems. if is proven. what you're saying about t
after monday as we start to move toward debt ceiling conversation and spending cuts get placed on the table, the poor are likely to take it on the chin, and that is why we are having this conversation live on c-span. our web site is a futurewithoutpoverty.com. have we lowered our expectations? i wonder what we say to fellow citizens who have lowered expectations. there is always a debate about what the proper role of government ought to be, and i suspect we are going to get into more...
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we want to remind you, in case you missed it, the house passed a bill yesterday suspending the debt ceiling. here is a baltimore sun piece. also on page 6 of "the baltimore sun" is a picture of john boehner and says -- they show the speaker in a photo saying it would cut the deficit twice as fast as other plants. the speaker is also out there making a speech to the society. the headline basically says this -- his focus is basically to annihilate the republican party. here's a look at you to but. [video clip] >> from what we heard yesterday, it is pretty clear to me -- it should be clear to all you he knows he cannot do any of that as long as the house is controlled by republicans. we are expecting over the next 22 months to be the focus of this administration as they attempt to annihilate the republican party. i do believe that is their goal. and just to shut us into the dustbin of history. host: these were remarks to the ripon society. they go on to write to that the transcripts or accurate, and noted that the speaker regularly attends the event. perhaps we will hear more about this in the
we want to remind you, in case you missed it, the house passed a bill yesterday suspending the debt ceiling. here is a baltimore sun piece. also on page 6 of "the baltimore sun" is a picture of john boehner and says -- they show the speaker in a photo saying it would cut the deficit twice as fast as other plants. the speaker is also out there making a speech to the society. the headline basically says this -- his focus is basically to annihilate the republican party. here's a look at...
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[applause] the house will not consider another boat to increase the debt ceiling unless the senate passes a budget. we are going to point the country in the right direction. we are going to cut spending. [applause] it will be times when conservatives disagree on the way forward. we have never marched in lockstep. that is not what we do. and healthy debate is a good and needed thing. we can do that in private without doing it in public. we need to give an honest account of our actions and the reasons for that. we should challenge the left and not each other. our founders were men of prudence. taken james madison. nowadays they call him the founder of the constitution. he lost some key governments -- arguments. he fought for plan to give the states the same number of states in the government. he wanted to give congress even more power. he wanted it to be able to veto state laws. madison argued vigorously for his side. when it came time to ratify the constitution, there was no greater advocate and james madison. he helped write editorials and called it the federalist papers. he led the charg
[applause] the house will not consider another boat to increase the debt ceiling unless the senate passes a budget. we are going to point the country in the right direction. we are going to cut spending. [applause] it will be times when conservatives disagree on the way forward. we have never marched in lockstep. that is not what we do. and healthy debate is a good and needed thing. we can do that in private without doing it in public. we need to give an honest account of our actions and the...
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history, or if you can use the debt ceiling, which you cannot in the end pull the trigger on, because even though you could probably go without technical default for months and months, it would be catastrophic. it would mean you'd have to cut spending by 40% overnight which you can't do. so unless you can execute the bluff, don't do it because obama will call it, as he called it on january 1 of this year, as he would with the debt ceiling. don't -- if you can't carry out the bluff. i hope you weren't plauding carrying out the bluff, in which case my entire argument is undermined and has gone nowhere. >> i think that's a small contingent against suicidal charges. >> and they are on suicide watch. i hope their shoelaces have been removed. [laughter] >> so you do what i think the house members and their retreat in williamsburg very cleverly did. you pick your fights and don't try to govern from one house to get very small advances. i thought i recommended last week that in return for a temporary debt ceiling hike of three months, they demand that the senate produce a budget. and they acc
history, or if you can use the debt ceiling, which you cannot in the end pull the trigger on, because even though you could probably go without technical default for months and months, it would be catastrophic. it would mean you'd have to cut spending by 40% overnight which you can't do. so unless you can execute the bluff, don't do it because obama will call it, as he called it on january 1 of this year, as he would with the debt ceiling. don't -- if you can't carry out the bluff. i hope you...
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no budget, no pay. >> in the spotlight tonight, debt ceiling magic. that was house speaker john boehner after the house passed a bill making the debt ceiling disappear until may 18th, without cutting any federal spending. the stupidly named and conceived "no budget, no pay act" passed with a vote. 33 republicans voted against the bill, 199 voted for it. 86 democrats voted for the bill, 111 democrats voted against it. not only will the no budget, no pay act suspend the debt ceiling for about three months, it also requires the house and senate to pass budget resolutions by april 15th, and if they don't, representatives and senators will not get paid, which is of course, wildly unconstitutional. the 27th amendment prohibits congress from modifying their own paychecks in any way. they can vote to change the pay for future congress only, but republicans passing an unconstitutional bill, while at the same time relieving the pressure on the debt ceiling was welcomed by some democrats as republicans moving from out-right crazy to half-crazy. >> i'm not sure w
no budget, no pay. >> in the spotlight tonight, debt ceiling magic. that was house speaker john boehner after the house passed a bill making the debt ceiling disappear until may 18th, without cutting any federal spending. the stupidly named and conceived "no budget, no pay act" passed with a vote. 33 republicans voted against the bill, 199 voted for it. 86 democrats voted for the bill, 111 democrats voted against it. not only will the no budget, no pay act suspend the debt...
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. >> why did lawmakers decide it was best to delay having to debate raising the debt ceiling? >> well, it was a decision by house republican leaders a few weeks ago. they tried in 2011 to use the debt limit as a lynch -- leverage point to force obama to swallow spending u cuts. it worked but -- [inaudible] to something like 9%. and they recognize that it was a bad idea. i mean, gambling with the credit of the united it turned out is a bad idea. we were downgraded for the first time in nation's history. they department want to do that again. like i said, i didn't want to vote for a bigger national debt either. that doesn't fit with their philosophy. they came up with the strategy of saying we're going us is fend. and in the meantime, they want the senate to pass a budget for 2014 and the law salses that -- says that if either chamber fails to adopt a budget by april 15, the paychecks will be docked. the idea of the thing is to postpone the sort of economy raddling default situation until they can prosecute the continuing fight over taxes and spending to a point where, you know,
. >> why did lawmakers decide it was best to delay having to debate raising the debt ceiling? >> well, it was a decision by house republican leaders a few weeks ago. they tried in 2011 to use the debt limit as a lynch -- leverage point to force obama to swallow spending u cuts. it worked but -- [inaudible] to something like 9%. and they recognize that it was a bad idea. i mean, gambling with the credit of the united it turned out is a bad idea. we were downgraded for the first time...
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we are not going to just keep raising the debt ceiling, we are going to make a down payment on debt reduction and we are going to putt -- we are going to point the country in the right direction. we are going to cut spending. [applause] there will be times when conservatives disagree on the way forward. we never marched in lockstep. we can deliver it in private. all we should ask for each other is that we give an honest account of our actions and the reasons for them. we should challenge the left, not each other. if we take a prudent course we will be in very good company. take james madison. nowadays we call him the founder and the father of the constitution. but at the constitutional convention he lost key arguments. he fought to give each state the same number of seats in the senate. he wanted to give congress more power. he wanted them to be able to be tough state laws. in both cases, he argued vigorously for his side. in both sets -- in both cases he lost. when it came to ratify the when it came time to ratify the constitution, there was no better person than james madison. he led the ch
we are not going to just keep raising the debt ceiling, we are going to make a down payment on debt reduction and we are going to putt -- we are going to point the country in the right direction. we are going to cut spending. [applause] there will be times when conservatives disagree on the way forward. we never marched in lockstep. we can deliver it in private. all we should ask for each other is that we give an honest account of our actions and the reasons for them. we should challenge the...
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and we're not going to just keep raising the debt ceiling. we're going to make a down payment on debt reduction, and we're going to point the country in the right direction, we're going to cut spending. [applause] you know, there will be times p when conservatives disagree on the way forward. we've never marched in lockstep. that's not what we do. a healthy debate is a good and needed thing. we can deliberate in private without fighting in public. all we should ask of each other is that we give an honest account of our actions and their reasons for them. we should challenge the left, not each other. and if we take the prudent course, you know what? we'll be in really good company. our founders were men of prudence. take james madison. nowadays we call him the founder, the father of the constitution. but at the constitutional convention, he lost some key arguments. you know, he fought the plan to give each state the same number of seats in the senate. he thought it was deeply unjust. and at first he wants -- he wanted congress to be able to ve
and we're not going to just keep raising the debt ceiling. we're going to make a down payment on debt reduction, and we're going to point the country in the right direction, we're going to cut spending. [applause] you know, there will be times p when conservatives disagree on the way forward. we've never marched in lockstep. that's not what we do. a healthy debate is a good and needed thing. we can deliberate in private without fighting in public. all we should ask of each other is that we give...
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look at sequestration and the spending cuts and the debt ceiling we believe it is all a dog and pony show. there is really not going to get cut, only get large. >>> he never spoke at the inaugural address about balancing the budgets and living within our means and making difficult choices. just the opposite. he seems to want to lock in this permanent welfare dependency mentality in the country which pretty much guarantees america becomess. >> you have this philosophical id long-timal mentality. what we like to think of unfortunately is that politics in washington is a little bit now like professional wrestling okay. there is this demonstration going on but it is kind of scripted and it doesn't really get to the full truth of what is going on. >> sean: there are two other issues we haven't dealt with yet. one is the media. they are not doing specials on this. number two, american people you know what, i don't know if they are either aware or they don't care. you want to weigh in here but the bottom line is they voted in obama. i got chris matthews all mad, he didn't get a tingle up hi
look at sequestration and the spending cuts and the debt ceiling we believe it is all a dog and pony show. there is really not going to get cut, only get large. >>> he never spoke at the inaugural address about balancing the budgets and living within our means and making difficult choices. just the opposite. he seems to want to lock in this permanent welfare dependency mentality in the country which pretty much guarantees america becomess. >> you have this philosophical id...